Sunday, March 31, 2019

Love, No Matter What

As I thought about what to write today, God brought to mind 1 Corinthians 13:4 . . . Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.

These verses give us a very clear view of what love is, and shows us how to love our grandchildren in a way which points them to God. Love is not an emotion which comes and goes. It is not something which depends on how others treat us or how our situation looks. Love is a choice. Period. We choose to love others - no matter what, because this is how God loves us; no matter what.

Prayer to Come Near to God

Heavenly Father,
We want to be spiritually fit, not only for ourselves but for our children and grandchildren. Give us a taste of Your presence, stirring in us a desire so strong we make time with You a priority.

Saturday, March 30, 2019

A Grandma's Heart is a Patchwork of Love

Oh yes! We grandmas (and grandpas and parents) do love the grandblessings God has given to us! We certainly tell our grandchildren how much we love them and we show it, but don't forget one of the most important things you will ever do to show your love - pray for your grandchildren.

Foot-tracks of Grace

Don't you just find this quote from the Kimmels both encouraging and challenging? We absolutely leave foot-tracks for our grandchildren to follow by what we say, but our foot-tracks are much, much clearer when what we do backs up what we say. And, when what we say and do is grounded firmly in grace, our tracks will not only be "clear", but they will be "attractive".

Friday, March 29, 2019

Carry the Umbrella

Do you pray with the faith which "carries the umbrella"? Make the choice to hold firmly to the truth - God has promised to hear, listen to and answer our prayers. Do not let your prayers be sidetracked or derailed by Satan's lies which say God does not hear your prayers. Hold tightly to the truth!

Think About & Invest in the Generations Who Come Behind

It is easy to think as we approach retirement, or actually become retired, our time is now for us. We may think it is finally time for us to travel, play golf, or just enjoy the years we have remaining however we choose, but this is a very short-sighted way to look at the last years we have on this Earth.

While we are able to see retirement as, "me-time", we also are able to spend these last years doing something which truly matters. We are able to invest in the generations who come behind us and hand down the faith to them.

Thursday, March 28, 2019

Encourage Your Grandchildren With - God Made One Version of You

Stop whatever you are doing right now . . . well, after you finish reading this post! When you finish, grab your phone and call your grandchildren, or send them an email or text, or just go visit if they live close enough. When you connect, share with them the truth of this quote from Max Lucado - God only made one version of them!

Leave Your "Grandprints" on Their Heart

Several of the Grandmas with Heart are also some of the founders of the Legacy Coalition - we were there at the start. It is our heart's desire to see grandparents stand up and commit to be intentional Christian grandparent who are focused upon handing down a heritage of faith to their grandchildren and help churches become intentional when it comes to equipping their grandparents to be intentional. One of the ways the Legacy Coalition does this is with the Legacy Grandparenting Summit - an opportunity to hear from amazing speakers and singers who encourage and equip grandparents to be intentional in handing down their faith.

So far there have been three Summits - watch for details as they release information as to the next Summit. Two years ago, Scott Wesley Brown was one of the people who sang at the summit - he shared his new song - Grandprints - which he wrote especially for the Legacy Coalition's Grandparenting Summit! Just listen to this amazing song . . .

Wednesday, March 27, 2019

Handing Down the Faith on Purpose - How to Lead Your Grandchildren to Jesus

What does it look like to be intentional about handing down faith to our grandchildren? This is an important question for us to think about and for which we need to find answers; so we are able to be focused and intentional when it comes to handing down our faith. One way we do this, and the most important thing we do to do so, is when we have the great privilege and joy of pointing our grandchildren to Jesus.
If you might be wondering how to go about this all-important conversation with your grandchildren; consider the following, simple steps . . .

Help Your Grandchildren Discover Their Own "Faith History"

Our grandchildren absolutely need to hear us talk about how God has been faithful to us yesterday. They need to hear us point out how He is faithful to us today. They also need to hear us share why we believe God will be faithful to us tomorrow. They need to hear these things.

But, they also need to remember how God has been faithful to them yesterday. They need to see how God is faithful to them today. When they remember and see these things, they will be able to believe God will be faithful to them tomorrow.

Hand Down the Faith with Mystery Bags - "Sticky" Balloons - Stick to God

When it comes to being intentional about handing down faith to our grandchildren, we may feel intimidated. It is, after all, the most important thing we will ever do. But, while it is essential, it is not difficult; and most certainly something we should not fear. It may actually be rather simple.

Take for example, something I did with my grandsons, which is today's Mystery Bag project. My grandsons are young – ten, seven and five but this particular activity is one most any age of grandchild could do, understand and, most importantly, remember.  For this project you will need . . . 

Tuesday, March 26, 2019

Grandchildren Change Everything

Do you remember your life before grandchildren? You likely had more time to yourself. You may have spent more time with other people your age. When you thought about going out to eat, it was not likely at a place which served your food wrapped in paper. The things which mattered most to you were likely different than the things which matter most to you now. And, if you are like me, after years of covering your refrigerator with drawings, stories and photos of your own children, you were probably able to actually tell the color of your refrigerator before you had the drawings, stories and photos of your grandchildren covering it!

It is Where Their Names Are

Behind my house, in my back yard is a maple tree. It is no ordinary maple tree. It is an enormous maple tree. It is behind our two-stall garage and extends far above and far to both sides. It is enormous - well, not compared to a Redwood tree . . . which is truly enormous - but compared to normal Michigan Maple trees, this one is enormous.
Carved on it's branches are the names of my family members. When my youngest brother was about eleven years old, he climbed this tree (which was then our grandparents' back yard) and carved all his family member's names on the branches.

Monday, March 25, 2019

Be a "Difference-Maker"

Today is a gift from God to you. As I've said before, it is likely there are fewer days before us than there are behind us, so we need to be focused and purposeful about making the most of the days which God gifts to us.

Use these days to make a difference; and to make a difference as a grandparent. Grandparents are the second most influential people in the lives of their grandchildren, so yes, absolutely, you ARE able to make a huge difference as you hand down the faith.

Invest on Purpose

Oh yes, it matters so much what we do as grandmas (and grandpas and parents, too), because as we invest on purpose in the lives of the ones we love by handing down the faith, the "dividends" will "pay" as they learn to know, love and walk with God. The biggest "bonus" comes when they become the ones who "invest" on purpose and hand down the faith to their own children and grandchildren.

Pray the Ones You Love Will Choose to Follow God's Way

As our grandchildren go through their lives, they will be faced with the choice to follow God's way, or not. While we are not able to make this choice for them, we are able to live on purpose and leave a godly example, offer counsel when asked and most importantly, we are able to pray for them. Never underestimate the power of prayer as God has promised to listen and answer our prayers - and He loves our grandchildren and wants them to make wise choices even more than we do.

Sunday, March 24, 2019

Use Kind & Gentle Words

The Bible tells us to use kind, gentle words as they will soothe angry feelings. In Colossians 4:6 it says -
Your speech should always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you should answer each person. 
In the Gospels we read how Jesus did not send children away, but He spent time with them talking to them and blessing them. Clearly God's Word in these, and other, places has much to say about how we talk to others - including children.

Be a Torchbearer of the Gospel

The world in which our grandchildren are growing up is far different than it was when we were children, teens and even young adults. But, while the world is different, God and His Word are unchanging. The light of the Gospel is the one thing which changes the darkness of the world in which we live. Be torchbearers! Hold forth the truth of how Jesus is the Light, God's Word gives light and definitely treat our grandchildren with grace, patience and love, so they are drawn to Jesus.

Prayer for Protection

Heavenly Father,
The enemy is a counterfeit fisherman, angling for his prey. He cast his lies and jiggles his bait, hoping to reel-in another unsuspecting soul.

Saturday, March 23, 2019

Encourage Your Grandchildren With - You Make My Heart Happy!

Do you have any favorite sayings you speak often to your grandchildren? Something special you say to communicate your love and the truth of how your grandchildren hold great value? Something to encourage them?

I do. Well, I have several, but one of my favorites is; "You make my heart happy!" I like this for a couple main reasons. First, because every time I say it my grandsons get the biggest smiles on their faces and their sweet eyes sparkle! I also like it, because it communicates to them, they have the power to bring happiness into my life; they are able to do this, just because of who they are.

Our Grandchildren Are the Only Ones Who Are Able to be Them

Of course we grandmas (and grandpas/parents) love the children with whom God has blessed us. We tell them we love them, often; which is something very important for us to do.

But, along with telling them we love them, we need to communicate to them just how valuable they are. We need to let them know they are the only one who is able to be them - and we are SO thankful God made them just the way they are. We need to let them know - and repeat often - how God knew what He was doing when He created them to be the boys or girls they are and how they do not have to do or be anything more or different to have value - they have immeasurable value just as they are.

Friday, March 22, 2019

Today; Fight the Good Fight For All You Are Worth

Today we have the opportunity to make a difference. Today we have the opportunity to pray for the ones we love. Today we have the opportunity to share how God has been faithful to show His great love to you. Today you have the opportunity to hand down the faith. Today you are, "actually in the battle".

Blessing Your Grandchildren

If you did not grow up in a home where you received blessings from your grandparents and parents, or did not learn about giving blessings when you were a parent, the idea of doing this now may seem intimidating. While there are several ways to give blessings to the children you love, I love how Ken describes giving blessings where he says a big part of blessing grandchildren is . . . 

Thursday, March 21, 2019

The Future Isn't That Far Away

It is easy for us to be focused upon the day before us and lose sight of this very important truth - "the future isn't that far away". It is actually upon us.

What we do today does matter today and for the future. We need to be people who take these verses from Ephesians 5:15-17 to heart . . .

Listen, Respond & Love

"Listen" and "Respond". Yes, we as grandmas (and grandpas and parents, too) need to be people who "Listen" and "Respond" appropriately to the children we love. This is called being kind. This is called love and this makes a difference - a huge difference in the lives of these children. We must model this kindness; this love to them every day, on purpose.

Handing Down a Heritage of Faith is Essential & Can be Fun, too!

I've been writing for the past week and a half about handing down a heritage of faith to our grandchildren. As I said yesterday; "We so easily become distracted by the things in this world. We lose focus of what is truly most important and think things like earning more money, taking bigger and better vacations owning a bigger and newer home, driving new cars, etc. are important when in truth, none of these things matter. Not really. If we end up with all these things, but fail to hand down a heritage of faith to our grandchildren, will we say; 'Oh well. I had a great car, house and big back account.'? No. Nothing, please allow me to repeat, NOTHING is more important than handing down a heritage of faith to our grandchildren. If we are serious about handing down a heritage of faith, we have to stay focused upon what is really important, so we do not become distracted by this world.

Wednesday, March 20, 2019

Hand Down the Faith with Mystery Bags - Handprint Prayer Reminders

If you have been reading my posts here on Grandmas with Heart blog and facebook pages, it does not take long to realize I care very much about handing down a heritage of faith to the three sweet rascals with whom God has blessed my life – otherwise known as my three grandsons! It also does not take long to see I am intentional about praying for them. I know God hears, listens to and answers my prayers; it is the most powerful thing I am able to do for my grandsons - and for my grown children as well. So, when I found the following idea on Pinterest, I knew it was something I would try for sure and something which would make an excellent Mystery Bag project.
First of all, let me share with you something my oldest grandson said to me when he was just four years old. He walked up to me one day when he was at my house, and as seriously and as matter-of-fact as you can imagine, he said; “When people get old, they get holes in their brains.” Then, with his brown eyes twinkling and a big smile on his sweet face he said; “This is why you forget things, grandma!” I did mention my grandsons are little rascals, didn’t I?! Well, at least he is a very sweet rascal, because he followed this very “rascally” thing to say to his grandma with a hug!
Well, it is true, I do forget things sometimes. We all do. God knew this about us (not necessarily the part about the holes in our brains) and this is the very reason why in Numbers 15 He told His people to wear tassels on the bottom of their robes. It was not to make a fashion statement. It was for a specific purpose – to help them remember God. Each time they saw the fringe, they were able to be reminded of God and how they belonged to Him and they needed to obey His commands.
I appreciate reminders – it is why I wear a necklace with photos of my grandsons. Each time I see or touch it, I am reminded to pray for them - and my grown children. Along with providing me an opportunity to show others how sweet my three rascals are (I am a grandma, after all!) it is a reminder for me. And the idea I found on Pinterest follows this idea. What is the idea?
It is an idea for making paper handprints of your grandchildren’s hands – no matter their age.  For this project you will need . . . 

How Do We Hand Down a Heritage of Faith? Serve God & Do Not be Distracted by the World!

I have been writing for the past few days about how we are part of God's plan to hand down a heritage of faith to our grandchildren; and we need to focus upon doing so. Today as I finish looking at Deuteronomy 6, I want to think about what it means when it tells us to - 
Fear the Lord  your God, serve him only.
Yesterday I talked about how the people of Israel had trouble with remembering all the things God did for them; how He saved them, led them and provided for them. Over and over they forgot. I said; "We tend to do the same. We think the things we have are because of what we have done instead of remembering all we have are blessings from the hand of God. We forget God's goodness, but He says to be careful we do not forget. He wants us to remember and we need to remember. It is an important part of handing down a heritage of faith, because if we do not remember God and His many blessings, our grandchildren are unlikely to do so. When this happens, we slip into sin." 

We so easily become distracted by the things in this world. We lose focus of what is truly most important and think things like earning more money, taking bigger and better vacations, owning a bigger and newer home, driving new cars, etc. are important, when in truth, none of these things matter. Not really. If we end up with all these things, but fail to hand down a heritage of faith to our grandchildren will we say, "Oh well. I had a great car, house and big bank account!"? No. Nothing, please allow me to repeat, NOTHING is more important than handing down a heritage of faith to our grandchildren.


If we are serious about handing down a heritage of faith, we have to stay focused on what is really important; so we do not become distracted by this world. We need to remember Who we serve. We are able to do this in the following ways . . .

The Wisdom of Grandparents

Grandparents and wisdom; the two often go together. One of the ways Grandparents share their wisdom is through a favorite "sayings" they tend to use with their grandchildren. There is a reason old sayings, such as these, are handed down from one generation to the next - they tend to be wise sayings. 

Tuesday, March 19, 2019

God's Salvation is for ALL Generations

If you have grown children and/or grandchildren who do not yet walk with God, take heart this morning from what God says in Isaiah 51:8. He promises His righteousness lasts forever and His salvation is available for ALL generations.

A Strong "God Confidence"

Show your "God confidence" and tell your grandchildren how you hope in God and how He has answered your prayers. Then, help them keep an account of how God answers their own prayers - big and small - so they are able to see for themselves how "God comes through", "set their hope in Him" and have a strong "God confidence" of their own. This is what "handing down the faith" looks like. 

How Do We Hand Down a Heritage of Faith? Pay Attention & Remember Our Blessings are from God!

We have been looking at how we are part of God's plan to hand down a heritage of faith to our grandchildren, and we need to focus on doing so. Today I want to think about what it means when Deuteronomy 6 tells us to - 
  • Be careful you do not forget the Lord.
Apparently the people of Israel had trouble with remembering all the things God did for them; how He saved them, led them and provided for them. Over and over they forgot. We tend to do the same. We think the things we have are because of our own efforts instead of remembering all we have are blessings from the hand of God. We forget God's goodness, but He says to be careful we do not forget. He wants us to remember and we need to remember. It is an important part of handing down a heritage of faith, because if we do not remember God and His many blessings, our grandchildren  are unlikely to do so. When this happens, we slip into sin. 

Psalms 78 and Judges 2 tell us how this happened with God's people over and over. They received blessings from God, parents and grandparents thanked God. Then, they forgot to tell their children and grandchildren and they accepted the culture of the nations around them, slipped away from God and into sin. Bad things happened, they turned back to God, thanked Him for His blessings, then forgot, didn't tell their children and grandchildren and it all happened over and over again.


If we are serious about handing down a heritage of faith, we have to remember our blessings come from God and teach this to our children and grandchildren, so they are able to do the same. We may do this in the following ways . . . 

Monday, March 18, 2019

Encourage Your Grandchildren With - Way to Go!

A couple days ago I wrote about encouraging our grandchildren and said; "Since the world around our grandchildren is very apt to leave them questioning their value and we know God values them tremendously, I thought it might be nice to share some of my favorites from this list (from the NIV Mom's Devotional Bible list of ways to praise children) over the coming days and months." Today I am happy to share with you another of my favorites -

Pray for Your Grandchildren to Remember, See & Experience God's Faithful Love

Aren't you so thankful to know the same faithful love God has shown you and continues to show you is available for your grandchildren! Consider making this wonderful verse your prayer today -

How Do We Hand Down a Heritage of Faith? God's Word on our Hearts

We have been looking at how we are part of God's plan to hand down a heritage of faith to our grandchildren, and we need to focus on doing so. Today I want to think about what it means when Deuteronomy 6 tells us to - 

  • Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. Write them on the door frames of your houses and on your gates.

Bible times people had little boxes with Scripture inside - they wore these on their foreheads and wrists and put them as a sign on their doors. A very literal following of these verses; which certainly we are able to to today as well if we put Scripture in our homes, on our walls or eve wear Scripture jewelry. However; I think this is about really having God's words in our hearts and directing our lives. God's Word has to be more than just something which which we decorate or wear; it needs to be on our hearts and lived in our lives and we are able to do this in the following ways . . .

Sunday, March 17, 2019

Yelling at Children (and Huskies) Carries With it a Very High Cost

My grandsons love dogs; Huskies in particular. They are looking forward to the day when they will be able to have a Husky of their own. Yesterday when my son came to pick up my grandsons from their sleepover, he shared how Nicolas Petit was leading in this year's Iditarod; and was expected to win. But then something unexpected happened. One of his dogs jumped onto a younger dog and Nicolas yelled at the older dog. All of the dogs in his team heard him yelling; something which he said just does not happen with him and his dogs. When he started yelling, all of the dogs refused to go a step farther in the race. Nicolas said the dogs refused to move anywhere, so they ended up having to call in snowmobiles to get them off the ice on the coast of the Bering Sea and he had to withdraw from the race. Yelling at his dogs cost him the race.

I found this so interesting, because just as yelling at the dogs caused Nicolas' dogs to "shut down" and caused him to pay a high price, yelling at our grandchildren/ children also brings with it a high price. There has been significant amounts of research about how yelling impacts children and overwhelmingly the evidence shows if we yell at children we are physically and emotionally harming them - and this actual damage is able to last throughout their lives. If you would like to read some of the research about how yelling damages and harms children check this link and this link.

How Do We Hand Down a Heritage of Faith? Talk about It!

We know our "job" is not finished just because our children are grown. This is what Deuteronomy 6 is talking about when it says we are to; "talk about God and His Word in our day-in-day-out lives". We need to remember we are part of God's plan to hand down a heritage of faith to our grandchildren.

Deuteronomy is not talking about speaking just the occasional word to our grandchildren about going to church or praying, but a living of our lives in a way which reflects how important God's Word is, because we live it every day. Deuteronomy 6 says to - 

A Prayer of David's 23rd Psalm

Dearest Lord Jesus,
Today, we pray our children and grandchildren, believe as King David believed . . .

Happy Saint Patrick's Day

Make today a day of prayer!

#grandmas #handingdownthefaith #itmatterswhatwedo #grandparentingonpurpose

Saturday, March 16, 2019

Grandma's Most Important Job

Whether you go by the "name" of grandma, nana, meme, me-mom, granny or even "Dave" (last year when I asked what your grandchildren call you, one of you said your grandson called you "Dave" for about a year when he was two - for no reason anyone was able to discover!), we grandmas are able to make a huge impact on the lives of our grandchildren. Yes, we encourage dreams, cheer our grandchildren's successes, show warmth, kindness, love and are quick to laugh. But the most important things any grandma will ever do is to hand down the faith and point our dear grandchildren to Jesus.

How Do We Hand Down a Heritage of Faith? Impress God's Word Upon Our Grandchildren!

I have been writing about how our "job" is not finished just because our children are grown. If we have grandchildren we still have a very important job to do. We are part of what Deuteronomy 6 is talking about. We are part of God's plan to hand down a heritage of faith to our grandchildren.

I looked at the first step in doing this; being people of the Word who have God's words, "upon our heart". You will find what I had to say about this at the following link.

Today I want to look at the next step . . .

Encourage Your Grandchildren With - God Knew What He Was Doing When He Created Them

A number of years ago, Zondervan Published their, NIV Mom's Devotional Bible. One of the resources in this Bible is the, "101 Ways to Praise a Child". Since the world around our grandchildren is very apt to leave them questioning their value and we know God values them tremendously, I thought it might be nice to share some of my favorites from this list over the coming days and months. So, from time-to-time, I will share one of my favorite "Ways to Praise a Child" along with some ideas of ways to reinforce to your grandchildren how dearly you love them.

I love this, "way to praise a child" . . . God knew what He was doing when He created you! Consider sharing this truth with them in the following ways . . .

Friday, March 15, 2019

How Do We Hand Down a Heritage of Faith? We Must Be People of the Word!

As I have been saying, "If we have grandchildren, we still have a very important job. We are a big part of what Deuteronomy 6 is talking about. We are part of God's plan to hand down a heritage of faith to our grandchildren." Happily, Deuteronomy 6 tells us how we are able to do exactly this. It begins with . . . 

Be Prepared for God to Do a Big Thing

Our God is bigger than we think He is and He is able to do ever so much more than we are able to even begin to imagine! Not only is He able to do big things in our lives, but He will do them. And, not in our lives only, but in the lives of our grown children and grandchildren as well.

Thursday, March 14, 2019

Did You Know . . . Some Fun Grandparent Facts

I enjoy learning about, "grandparent facts", so today I'm happy to share a few interesting and fun facts with you.

Many of we grandmas (and grandpas, too) are not really, "old". There are a lot of "younger" grandparents out there for sure. And I love reading how so many of us believe being a grandparent brings us closer to our adult children.

Share Jesus with Your Young Grandchildren - A Whole Life is Able to Be Saved

Handing down the faith is of course, first all about helping our grandchildren learn about God, His love, grace and forgiveness, so they will come to make the decision to believe in Him. When our grandchildren make this decision as children, DL Moody is correct: a whole life is saved!

How Do We Hand Down a Heritage of Faith? Consider the Following . . .

Yesterday I wrote about how our job is not "finished" just because our children are grown. If we have grandchildren there is still a very important "job" for us to do. We are part of what Deuteronomy 6 is talking about; we are part of God's plan to hand down a heritage of faith to our grandchildren.

So, how do we do this?

Wednesday, March 13, 2019

Handing Down a Heritage of Faith - It Matters

Several years ago Larry Fowler wrote a book, The Question Nobody Asks about Our Childrenwhich took a look at how often children are at church. He said there are 168 hours in a week and research shows typically children are at church for one to three of these hours. If children only attend church every other week - as so many do, they are only there for one to three hours of 336 hours. 

The Pew Research Center's Study on Religion in America, backs this up; their study shows, "The Christian share of the U.S. population is declining, while the number of U.S. adults who do not identify with any organized religion is growing, according to an extensive new survey by the Pew Research Center. Moreover, these changes are taking place across the religious landscape, affecting all regions of the country and many demographic groups. While the drop in Christian affiliation is particularly pronounced among young adults, it is occurring among Americans of all ages.

It is clear we are not able to rely on the one to three hours out of 168 to 336 hours our grandchildren/children are in our churches to hand down our faith. We have to become serious about focusing on the other 165-167/333-335 hours which provide opportunities to impact children. This means we have to focus on handing down a heritage of faith to our grandchildren/children and are not able to just rely on the church with the mind-set, "It's their 'job'."

Focus Upon the Two Most Important Things

One of the things I am doing with my grandsons is to help them focus upon the two most important things; loving God with their all and loving others. Each weekend, when they are at my house, we talk about something specific we will do to show we love God and about a focus for the week to help us remember to love, and show our love for, others. This week our focus for loving God is to remember and believe Who God is and our focus for loving others is to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Oxford Study Results on Grandparents & Grandchildren

We do not really need an Oxford University study to tell us what we experience and know to be true - our grandchildren are happier when we are heavily involved in their lives. Not only are they happier, but they learn important things when we invest our time in them, such as, reading, new skills, family history, how to respond to stress, treating others with love and most importantly why we believe what we believe.

Yes, grandparents have a huge role to play in helping their grandchildren grow and develop, but along with the teaching we also are blessed to experience great joy as we watch our grandchildren grow to be people who take what we have taught to heart.

Be a grandparent who is heavily involved in the lives of your grandchildren - this is easier to do if they live close, but not impossible to do if they live far. Connect in meaningful ways each week - no matter their age or location . . . it matters! 

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